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Pokemon HeartGold & SoulSilver EV Training Guide

Post  Superswampert65 on Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:48 pm

Watch this video and also read below...(This is not my video)
Also watch the second video on where to find certain pokemon to train with...(Also not my video)









Training A Battle Ready PokemonThere are many things to consider when training the perfect pokemon for battles. This guide is to help guide you through the steps to getting the pokemon you want to a great level of battle effeciency.

Step 1: Choosing a PokemonThis step determines what you will do throughout your training. If you are picking a pokemon to beat the campaign, you are free to pick whatever you like. However, when battling in the Battle Tower you will want to make the strongest team possible, and when battling against other people you'll want to set an even playing field by establishing what tier you will fight with.

Tiers go as follows: Uber, Overused (OU), Borderline (BL), Underused (UU), Neverused (NU). Pokemon like Palkia and Groudon are ubers, too strong for standard competition. Overused (OU), also known as "standard" are the typical settings for competitive fun battles with lots of choices for battling from Salamence to Yanmega. Borderline are pokemon too strong for UU, but will not compete as well as OU's in the standard environment; you'll find the likes of Crobat here. UU are generally too weak for OU or BL, but can have some unique strengths and potential that make battles interesting. Pokemon like Venomoth will compete the best here. Neverused are somewhat of a novelty, and are pokemon that will have no chance of success competitively (although when trained properly can sometimes be useful in the campaign). Pokemon like Beautifly can be found in this tier.

Keep in mind in the Battle Tower almost all ubers are banned, other than Wobbuffet.

NOTE: There is no official list stating what tier any pokemon is in, so none will be provided here, although there are many places to find lists that are accurate enough.

Step 2: EvolutionTo train a pokemon to its top power level, you will want to evolve it. This happens in one of two ways; naturally or by some other means (like using a stone, trading, etc). If you want to train a pokemon to its top potential, evolving is a must. Its stats simply will be much worse if you don't evolve it. If it evolves via a stone, trading, happiness, etc, your best bet is to evolve it as soon as possible. This means it will have more level-ups (more with higher stat raises) than without evolving early, and the evolved pokemon will have better stat raises. And don't worry if it is a pokemon that only learns moves before using a stone; almost every single relevant battle move is sold in TM form at either the battle tower or department store.

Step 3: Training / EVsEVs are one of the most interesting aspects of training a pokemon, and when manipulated correctly your result will be a deadly pokemon. EV stands for Effort Value, which is a fancy term for points you get when you defeat any pokemon in an EXP giving battle (no Battle Tower or fights against your friends give EVs).

EVs translate into points into your stats. Every pokemon gives different EVs, in Attack, Defence, HP, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed, and a different amount of EV points. For example, defeating a Golbat will give you 2 points into the Speed EV.

It gets a little more complicated however, because these don't translate directly into stats. It takes 4 EV points for a stat to go up by 1 point when you level up. So, if you KO 2 Golbats while levelling up, remember they gave 2 speed EVs, your Speed stat will go up by 1 more than usual.

So, the point of EVs is to give your pokemon a huge edge in a specific stat you choose. If you train against a lot of Golbats, your speed stat in turn will raise higher than usual. But, piling up the EV points just from fighting Golbats alone can take a very long time. Luckily, there are ways to speed up the process, and if you play things right your stats will be rising up by 6 or 7 a level.

The first way is by using the Macho Brace Item. Unfortunately, it is difficult to obtain, but if you have one it doubles the EV point you get from battles. The other option is a series of items that you can get by trading in 16 BP at the battle tower exchange. Using these correctly your stats will shoot up ridiculously high. While holding them, your pokemon's speed is temporarily lowered by 50%. This may seem like a disadvantage, especially while training past many pokemon, but the effect is simply amazing - they give a massive 4 extra points into the EV that corresponds with the item. So, when holding a Power Anklet, defeating a single Golbat will give you a huge 6 points into your EV. This means that after just 2 Golbats your Speed stat will go up by 3 when you level up. And considering levelling up can take beating six or seven pokemon to get the EXP you need, this means your stats will be going through the roof when you level.

The "Power" Items that have the +4 EV point effect are as follows.

Power Anklet - Speed
Power Band - Special Defence
Power Lens - Special Attack
Power Bracer - Attack
Power Weight - HP
Power Belt - Defence


The other way to approach EVs is to essentially ignore them. This will mean that your pokemon will probably grow it's stats evenly and will still be a strong asset in the stats it excels in. The main reason you would do this is simply to save time and not have to worry about always fighting the right pokemon.

Some great places for EV training:

Cerulean Cave: Speed

Come here at night time and it's Golbat city. Holding a Power Anklet you'll get 6 EV points for each Golbat, which is a highly effecient way to EV train. To unlock this area though, you must first beat the 2nd Elite Four. Your pokemon should also be able to take down lvl 40s; so it's for stronger pokemon but if the area is available it's a great spot for training.

Cerulean Cave: Attack

It's also a great place for attack EV training. The Parasect, Machoke, and Primeape commonly found during the day will you give you 6 EVs each into attack. Train here when raising an offensive pokemon.

Oh No!Did you accidentally fight the wrong Pokemon and invest and EV into the wrong stat? As long as you have the patience, you can easily correct your mistake. Simply use an EV lowering berry. These berries lower your EVs to 100 (provided they are already over 100), and then lower it by 10 if under 100

For example, you have 242 EVs in the Speed stat, and you use a Tamato berry, your Pokemon now has 100 Speed EVs. Using anymore will lower the EVs by 10 each time. There are 6 berries, 1 for each stat (Berries 21-26) and are easily identified as EV lowering berries by their descriptions.

EV Lowering Berries
# Berry EV (-10)
21 Pomeg HP
22 Kelpsy Attack
23 Qualot Defense
24 Hondew Special Attack
25 Grepa Special Defense
26 Tamato Speed

GrindingIf you want to grind pokemon's levels as quickly as possible, there are multiple things you can do. The first is use a means of increasing EXP point gain. The best way to do this is trade with a friend. Unfortunately, trading and then getting your pokemon back will not give you the bonus EXP, but any pokemon from another OT's ID will get a 1.5x EXP bonus (so instead of 200 EXP it would get 300). The next is using the Lucky Egg held item. A wild Chansey has a 5% likelihood of holding one, so good luck getting one. But, if you beat the odds and manage to get one, it doubles EXP.

If you are in the main campaign, the only real way to grind is to just find a patch of grass with pokemon giving as much EXP as possible, and beat up on them for a while. If your pokemon is too weak, give it an EXP. Share. This gives it 50% of the EXP even when not battling (good way to evolve a Magikarp). You can get an EXP. Share by presenting a Red Scale to Mr. Pokemon (you will receive a Red Scale in the part of the game where you confront the Red Gyarados).

Another option is open after beating the Elite Four the 2nd time and getting your pokemon to a comfortable level to run through them over again. Give your weak pokemon an EXP. Share and the amounts will be huge just from getting 50%, because at the Elite Four's levels you will be getting 2000-3000 EXP per pokemon.

Step 4: MovesetYour moveset is your pokemon's main way of using its full potential and putting its strengths and weaknesses into play. There are a few things to consider when creating a moveset for your pokemon.

1. Move Type

Move type is an important part of a move, because your pokemon gets a 1.5x power bonus when using a move of it's type. For example, say you use Hippowdon, a ground-type Pokemon and use Double-Edge, a 120 power attack. Then you use Earthquake a 100 power attack, and notice Earthquake does more damage. This is because after the type bonus, Earthquake's power gets raised to 150. This rule also applies to dual-type Pokemon. Aerodactyl receives a 1.5x power bonus to both Rock and Flying-type moves. Note that Normal-type Pokemon also receive this bonus so, that Snorlax or Ursaring you taught Strength to now has a base power of 120.

Anither thing to consider is having some variety. Gengar is a good example. If you have him take all Ghost type moves, they will get the bonus, but then when fighting Dark and Steel types you'll be weakened, and fighting Normal types you won't get to hit them at all. For this reason, a perfect move for Gengar to take would be Focus Blast (Fighting type). This not only complies with the Sp. Atk stat Gengar excels in, but it will now be raised from inneffective to super effective hits on all 3 types Ghost moves are weak against.

2. Power / Accuracy

Power and accuracy are another thing to keep in mind. Moves like Thunder have ridiculous power, but are almost always hindered by less than favorable accuracy. For this reason, taking a move like Thunderbolt can often be a better choice because 100% accuracy means it will hit every time. The best way to choose moves to deal the most damage is try and find the highest power with an accuracy that hits almost every time; above 85 should usually be reliable enough.

Another thing to note is that move accuracy can be affected by weather effects. In heavy rain, Thunder's accuracy increases to base 100; with this information you can plan a team, for example, a Gyarados with Rain Dance and an Ampharos with Thunder. Rain dance will boost the power of Gyarados' attacks not to mention give Thunder 100 accuracy. This tactic can be good for a Double Battle, or by switching to an Ampharos immediately after using Rain Dance. A few other weather effects include an increase of power in the sun, giving a 50% bonus to Fire-type moves, and decreasing the power of Water-type moves by 50%, Hail and Sandstorm (both effects damage certain types of Pokemon).

Note all the effects of certain weather conditions are not listed here; Hai, Sandstrom, etc. all have more effects.

3. Physical or Special

When learning a new move, observe whether it is physical or special. Some pokemon have close Attack and Sp. Atk, so for them just worry about power or type. However, many pokemon, like Kadabra, are heavily focused on one stat. For Kadabra, his Attack is pathetic so stay away from moves like Psycho Cut and instead take a move like Psychic which utilize his great Special Attack. Picking the right moves for your pokemon's stats is often the difference between a so-so attacker and a deadly force.

4. Held Item

This is a very important field, because held items have the potential to give pokemon a great advantage. While it isn't really a part of the moveset, items are very often used as a way to support your moveset. When simply going through the main story, berries are a good choice. Giving out Pecha berries before the poison gym or just sitrus/oran berries for and extra bit of healing can make a huge difference in battles. There are alos items like the Shell Bell you can find along the way. Equip them correctly and you'll find that your pokemon will get an extra competitive edge; an example of where to use the Shell Bell would be with your team's best damage dealer. Whenever you attack you'l restore a little health, and the bigger the hits the more health you regain.

Later, when you have access to a more broad and advanced selection of items, there are great combinations you can put together. For example, the Toxic Orb, which you can buy at the Battle Frontier. It has a strange effect; it poisons your pokemon. But when matched with a Breloom with the Poison Heal ability you will gain health every turn, which is a great combo. Another amazing item is Leftovers, because it simply restores 1/16 of your HP every turn. Match this with a wall like Blissey and not many opponent will be able to take that down.

Though not confirmed (confirmed for Pokemon Platinum), any items used in the Battle Tower are restored after every battle. For example, that Power Herb you used for a Solar Beam during the last fight is still held by your Meganium in the next battle or the Yache berry you gave to your Garchomp is still there even after eating it. This is good to know if you are trying the Battle Frontier Challenges so you can always depend on any strategy you have based around items.

5. Ability

When manipulated well, an abilty can greatly increase a move's potential. For example, Togekiss has the ability Serene Grace, which boosts the chance of added effects appearing. Air Slash has a flinch chance of 30%, but when you have a Togekiss with Air Slash it's ability brings that up to a huge 60%, which means your opponent will be flinching a lot. Try and find moves like this to work with the ability of your pokemon, if possible (some abilities are defensive instead).


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So, that's about all you need to know about training a pokemon. Different pokemon have different amounts of EXP needed to reach level 100, but that's out of the players. Just pick a pokemon, evolve it, make the best use of it's EVs and stats, then deck it out with just the right item. And if you've done it all right, you'll have a pokemon worthy of a master!


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Post  PorcupineBillyBilly on Wed Jun 09, 2010 1:33 pm

you can find lists of what pokemon give what EV's at Serebii.net, under the pokedex section, you just click on , for example HP, If your looking for HP EV giving Pokemon, then it'll show you what pokemon give HP EV's and how much

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Also something else to keep in mind

Post  Jennyftw on Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:41 pm

you know how power anklet or the items that boosts a specific kind of stat? well, if you had those, and the pokerus it would be like almost cheating, it double everything, ex. 6 Ev's + pokerus i think is 12 i think pokerus is 2x or 1.5x not sure but it makes everything easier & faster. Happy training Smile Very Happy
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Post  PorcupineBillyBilly on Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:14 am

Jennyftw wrote:you know how power anklet or the items that boosts a specific kind of stat? well, if you had those, and the pokerus it would be like almost cheating, it double everything, ex. 6 Ev's + pokerus i think is 12 i think pokerus is 2x or 1.5x not sure but it makes everything easier & faster. Happy training Smile Very Happy

Pokerus is times 2

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Post  Jennyftw on Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:19 am

yeah thats what i said but thanks for rephrasing in a single sentance Razz
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Post  PorcupineBillyBilly on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:02 am

you said you didn't know if ti was x2 or x1.5 so I was clearing that up

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Post  Jennyftw on Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:26 am

oh okay thnx Very Happy
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